The Personal Income Breakdown: Tracey Walker’s Five-Account Paycheck System
You finally set up a business system, the accounts, the percentages, the discipline. And then your own paycheck lands in one personal checking account and disappears the same way it always did, some on bills, some on impulse, and none of it doing what you actually meant for it to do.
Tracey Walker closes out this stretch of the Unstoppable Mastermind by pointing out that the same fragmentation problem she solved on the business side is usually still sitting untouched on the personal side. Fixing one without the other just moves the leak from one bank account to the next.
As someone tired of watching a paycheck vanish without a clear reason, you already know what that leak feels like. This session takes the personal paycheck that comes out of the business’s operating account and breaks it down into its own working structure, the same way the business accounts were broken down before it.
How many accounts does one paycheck actually need?
Tracey Walker splits her own personal income into five working pieces: a primary checking account for everyday bills, a spending account for guilt-free personal enjoyment, a long-term savings account, a short-term savings account, and a dedicated account she sets aside for a specific family member. Each one gets funded on its own schedule, weekly for spending, monthly for the two savings accounts, so the money has somewhere specific to go the moment it lands instead of pooling into one number she’d otherwise have to mentally divide up herself.
The spending account carries a real point behind it beyond simple fun money. Working this hard without ever consciously enjoying any of it isn’t discipline, it’s a fast route to resentment. Setting aside a fixed slice specifically for enjoying the results removes the guilt from spending it, because it was never supposed to be sitting in savings in the first place.
What is a financial freedom account and why does nobody touch it?
The account that matters most in this whole breakdown gets treated completely differently from the rest. Tracey Walker recommends setting aside roughly fifteen percent of personal income into what she calls a financial freedom account, money that isn’t for bills, isn’t for fun, and isn’t for emergencies either. As she puts it, “your financial freedom account is your septic tank can you put in 15 of your personal income into that account”.
This you don’t touch ever, ever, ever, ever.
That account exists for one purpose: becoming seed capital for a future investment or opportunity, not a cushion to raid the next time a bill runs tight. The discipline of never touching it is the entire point. The moment it becomes available for anything convenient, it stops functioning as the thing that eventually buys real independence and becomes just another savings account with a nicer name.
Why does an old family habit around money still run your life today?
Tracey Walker traces her own instinct for structure back to watching her mother manage money through cash and money orders instead of a checking account, paying full price in fees every week rather than trust a system that felt unfamiliar. As she puts it, “I don’t have no money. That is a mindset.” The lesson isn’t a judgment of her mother. It’s a recognition that the habits modeled around you growing up quietly become the default you have to consciously choose to replace.
She’s also careful to warn against overcorrecting into obsession. As she puts it, “don’t get so anal with this that you drive yourself nuts”. The structure is meant to create clarity, not a system so rigid that every gas station visit turns into an audit of your own life.
That balance is really the point of the whole personal breakdown. The accounts exist to give every dollar a job before it lands, not to turn ordinary spending into a source of anxiety. Once the structure is in place, the daily decisions get easier, not harder, because you already know which account a given expense belongs to before the question even comes up.
A few pieces worth setting up in your own personal breakdown:
- A spending account funded regularly enough that enjoying money doesn’t require guilt.
- Separate short-term and long-term savings, funded on their own schedule.
- A financial freedom account you genuinely never touch, built specifically for future opportunity.
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The full session transcript follows below.
Transcript
so you had your six accounts all business accounts now you got personal guess what you're gonna do in personal break it down okay so in personal in personal i really only have um that's not i have like five okay so i have this is what they call because i haven't really named these but then you got i got my primary check-in i've got a spending account i've got um a long-term savings i've got a short-term savings and then and i i don't even talk to you roger about this anyway but then i have i have a josiah account there's the other thing too um i advise this for my clients your financial freedom account is your septic tank can you put in 15 of your personal income into that account that's this right here okay so this is technically my account that's what i'm talking about fff when i think of long-term savings spending i think of one year's contingency fund so let's say this right here one year one year for what for let's say emergency i wouldn't do that that's this well okay that's what i'm saying okay some sort of savings account okay yeah i'm not talking about the financial freedom account okay short term yes six months to a year whatever you're building that up your ffa is totally different this is the golden goose we're not touching this period this now so you get paid your two thousand a week right for example you can pay your two thousand a week your two thousand a week goes into this every single week and you pay your bills from this you do that now here's what i do though so i will take ten percent i'm still breaking it down right so i had to make twenty thousand dollars in my revenue my company right to get down to where i got let's just say two thousand dollars a week right of that two thousand a week i'm gonna take two hundred dollars and i'm gonna put it into my spending account why because i work hard so am i supposed to just keep looking at the bank account and just look at it or should i be enjoying the fruits of my labor right i mean really give me a break you're gonna work this hard you're gonna travel you're gonna work with people you're gonna do all this that you're trying to do and then you're gonna tell me anybody that you don't deserve a new leather jacket for the winter time yeah you don't have a an account for taxes for personal no i really don't i probably need one because therein lies my problem yeah i need to have that you said right because this money this is my i'm payroll i'm w-2 for myself which would be what like 30 percent yeah something like that it's the highest tax rate right now is 39.6 so yeah somewhere around 30 something right um that's another reason why i don't pay myself that much because i'm gonna get taxed at a higher bracket so if i can pay most of my stuff out of my if my company can pay for my car note my boat and do all of that then my 2000 i don't need a lot coming in personally because it's already being taken care of over here being deducted and if i'm not a write-off this is not right write-offable yeah personally the great thing about that is you're going back on when people are asking why set up yourself as a your own entity an llc or an s corp or whatever because you get a better deduction yes you know out of that so those expenses that you're taking out out of the company instead on that personal side that's right it's going to help offset the operating income or the revenue for the company as well as personal you know so it'll help offset even some of that income that you do make a whatever most definitely absolutely great point carl so see so so then what happens is because i don't have it set up right where i can i'm so used to on the business side i can see it see it see it right i just write a check go but over here i have this cringe right i hate i hate to write a check from this to them do you know something like y'all they do none of this y'all y'all not y'all not doing under the work y'all not standing up here with me y'all not doing that right do you have any personal tax account yeah a several tax account this is what i need to do this is what i need to do right a personal tax account so for those of us that don't have desire how would we label personal tax account just put personal tax account just replace that i got six you got five all right and the other thing too is that when they have money for taxes they should be looking to file their taxes quarterly yes which is another thing that i do yes so the end of the year way to the end of the year you're going to be stuck like chuck yeah oh and fifteen thousand dollars as an example yeah you can't you have no money to pay for it yeah yeah do you have to you know play catch up and payment plan or whatever you could do whatever right but this is the breakdown okay so no the savings account that is the business is the business okay these savings account these are saving account these saving accounts are for the personal so primary checking is just a regular every day and running oh let me go to target let me go to whatever i got to do that's this this is 10 of this and this is oh you know what i want to take my family out to a nice dinner why not you got money in the account and guess what this money is not affecting your bills see most people christmas for example everybody do what go broke okay buying all these christmas toys for kids that don't play with christmas toys or whatever right and they're buying it out of here but you know if you're going to celebrate christmas in that way that's what you do and you're going to buy you're going to spend stuff you know every year you're going to do that you know every year that you're going to do that so why not have an account set up so that you're consistently throughout the year adding money to this account and now when it's time to go christmas shopping you get fifteen thousand dollars up in here and if you want to blow it all on your kids or somebody else's kids and these are the nephews you can do that and guess what your bills not affected by that i don't i keep mine in regular to me because it's ongoing to me it's not a luxury like that's not a for me like i want to think and get my nails in and and pedicure today that's not a luxury to me this is this is a necessity in the life of a woman you understand what i'm saying this is me and my dad were talking about this he said you know you guys sure do spend a lot of money on like hair and nails and all this different type of stuff well yeah we do it's maintenance now me and you do hair cut right of herschel maybe not haircut right but the thing is shaving shaving the fuzz but that is not that is not in my mind you can break up how you want to break it up it's not a right or wrong but to me this is so ongoing that this is like a bill to me.
I need it just like I got to pay for groceries. It's going to happen every two weeks. With or without anything, this has got to happen. Spending is, my nephew says, auntie, this is your last year, right?
Because he's just turned 18. Auntie, this is the last year you got to take me school shopping. Oh, thank you, David. And I was wondering if we could negotiate on how much you give me for Christmas shopping, I mean for school shopping.
Now, since David was like five or six years old, this is what we would do, right? He would want me to take him school shopping, and I would say, David, let me teach you about money, right? A, let's start, let's negotiate on what is necessary, right? When you was five years old, kindergarten, all this is not necessary, right?
And as he went up through the years, he got better with negotiating, right? So now we're 18, and he's like, this is your last year. So this is what I was thinking. Let me tell you how this kid, all right, this kid has seen me go up, down, all around with money, businesses, everything, right?
So this kid comes to me, he says, okay, auntie, this is what we're going to do. He said, I want to take you to lunch. I said, okay. So we went to lunch.
Took me to lunch, had a nice little lunch, came on back home, said, okay. So we sit down, he said, okay, are you ready to talk now? Yes, dear, I'm ready to talk. He said, this is what we're going to do.
What we're going to do is I'm going to put the number on my cell phone, and I'm going to turn it down, and I'm going to slide it to you. Right? I said, David, who do you think you are? He said, auntie, you've taught me well.
I have to get better on my negotiations, but I know I'm supposed to start high. There you go. I said, don't be so high that it's looked at as, like, absurd, okay, where it doesn't even function. So this kid types in $10,000 on the phone, right?
So he types it in. He turns the phone over, he slides it over to me. So I look at the phone. I said, David, uh-uh.
I said, what do you think this is, David? You don't need no $10,000 for no school. You a senior in high school. What are you buying for $10,000?
No. No. You don't work? No.
No, sir. So come back with something else. We're not doing that. I don't care how much you think auntie got.
We're not doing that. Okay? Please say, okay. I had to try.
Yes, you did. So he came back. I didn't respond to that. There's no response to that.
We're not going to start a negotiation at $10,000. So he comes back. I said, what's the number? So he puts down, I think he put, like, $1,000.
I said, now look how much more reasonable we've gotten just in three seconds. So we can start negotiating at $1,000, right? So I come back. I said something like $500, right?
And he came back, like… $850, right? Then we ended up at $650 at this point, right? Now, David also is very good with budgeting, right?
In other words, if David sees some, like, he likes to skateboard on us, right? So he goes to a place called Zoomy's, right? So if he likes something in Zoomy's and he turns around and then he goes to PacSun and then he's almost over budget and he knows he needs to go to Foot Locker, he will very easily, without any restraint, take whatever back to Zoomy's, get something lesser at Zoomy's, right, to go get the difference and go buy it at Foot Locker. So I know this about him.
He is very rarely going to be like, oh, but auntie, I need $700 now. He doesn't do that. He'll make it work, which I appreciate. That's why I give him that, because he'll work it out where he gets what he needs to get.
Now, his mother, on the other hand, was still like, he ain't buying nothing. I don't see nothing worth $650, right? And so that's just her perspective of what it is, but it doesn't make a difference. That's what he got.
That's what it was. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it.
I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. That's what the bills was. So for nails, things like this, I use it as primary checking.
Spending, things like when I give money to my nephew for his school shopping. That's random, right. Now Josiah, on the other hand, who's a baby, right, who's one year old, him, I'm just putting money in the account just for him just every month. So that's kind of my background for him.
I never used it time he was born from well not the time but maybe like the month after he was born in june last year july i think i just put like 150 in that account every month there's 150 in there i think he got like maybe two thousand dollars or something like that in this account right it's just so he can have something right it's just so i know josiah got something accruing now when he get a little older then you know i'll probably move that over into some other type of college saving or something like this but right now it's just i want him to have stuff and i don't touch this period he need pamphlets he ain't paying for it you need your own pamphlets you gotta pay for your own pamphlets son josiah no i don't put money in here to make him pay for it this is his money you can pay your own damn papers what the like long term like no i have i set this up in dollar amount so what happens is in my um in my long-term savings i think i put i do these once a month this is every week spending is every time i get a paycheck i put i put 10 into my spending every week but long-term and short-term saving and josiah are monthly all right so i think for my long-term saving i think i put 500 a month in there and then my short-term savings i think i put 250 a month in there or vice versa i know it's i think it's that way right so you say oh i have a flat tire a short-term savings or whatever like okay i recently moved right i recently moved and i said okay i want to have when i move i want to have six months of living expenses already there because when i move i'm getting ready to be on the grind with my business i don't want to be thinking about mortgage rent all this type of stuff i just want to be able to essentially write these people a check every month and be done with it so i had the money you money in here that I used a portion of that to cover six months of my living expenses off the top but the only the reason the money was there was because I've been doing this for the past couple years right so to me that's a short-term savings so it could be emergency this wasn't emergency but it was just I wanted to have that lump sum together and I don't want to have to worry about it coming out of my primary checking account to work a job mm-hmm if they lost their income mm-hmm for any length of time say they got disabled mm-hmm they lost their income for any length of time that emergency fund for a year helps them cover the number of expenditures they have for that given year mm-hmm and I just like to play on words like I don't like the word emergency I don't like the word rainy day it could it could depends on see now you got to be disciplined okay if you're gonna if you're gonna be like to the letter like that then you better be driving around for your business I have I'm on the internet so it's hard for me to justify to my account why I got all these gas charges when I work at home and all my videos say hey I'm at home all my Periscopes I'm in a living room like so when am I how can I prove that right so now if you're gonna do that then you got to legitimize that yes and so you could yeah if you're actually going to see a client yeah okay it's gas this is your business right but you're going to get your hair done even if you're getting your hair done cuz you get ready speak at the event you know I mean don't make it so difficult that you're like crazy with it you know for me it's just look I just I just pay my gas out the primary checking account right the reality is that using I'm not driving to go see anybody in my business I'm usually not and if I am the $40 I spend on the gas for that, I mean, I might fill the tank up, but I'm not going to drive that whole tank down because I'm going to see clients, right?
I'm driving right down the road for a couple minutes and I come back, they may have used $5 in gas. What's an FFA? Financial freedom account. All right.
So yeah, so don't get, don't get so anal with this that you drive yourself nuts and you're like Rayman, like $45,000, $25,000. Like don't do that. Just, you know what I'm saying? This is what I'm saying.
Like, don't, don't go overboard with it. Okay. So this, like I said, I put $150 in here for this a month. This is a month and this is a month, right?
That's 10%. All right. Now this, this right here, this takes discipline. This you don't touch ever, ever, ever, ever.
And when I say don't touch, it means you don't touch like withdraw. You don't withdraw. This is your seed, your, your seed money. This is, let's say I know somebody that is, um, that has an idea and I want to invest in a business that's coming out of this, right?
Why? Because it's not coming to me. It's coming straight out of that into the investment of some, some, something. And then whatever return I have for that, something is going to come back to this.
Now there are other entities that you can use too, right? And I might even transfer this money to another one of my entities that I have. And I'm going to transfer it to another one of my entities that I have. Just depending on how I plan on doing some things coming up, you know, this next 12 month period of time.
But like, I have a Roth IRA, right? I have a Roth IRA. Um, I have a health savings account too, right? Like these are whole, all, all these different things, but like with your health savings account, correct me if I'm wrong.
From what I understood, cause I would put money aside for medical, right? Things like that. Because I would need to go to the doctor once a year. It's like everybody, every other woman, right?
So I would put money aside for that. And then if I had to go, I want that to be an expense, right? Because I'm like, well, shoot, I work for my company, right? And any other company will have like insurance, you know, or, you know, you pay, company pays something, you pay whatever you got going on.
Right. And I want to be, I want my company to pay for, um, my doctor's visits. So the thing was, well, you should probably set up a health savings account because if, if I did on the business side, if I deduct the money from the dentist on my business side, if I spend the money for the dentist on the, on the business side, it's not a deduction. It would be a deduction if I took the money out of the business account, put it into the health savings account.
And then when I went to the dentist, I paid into this from the health savings account. Now it's a deduction, right? So it's like all these different little things. I'm saying like, I'm just want to throw ideas, like just to share with you what, what things are possible.
Like you don't have the conventional knowledge that most of us have was not this, right? I don't know. I've never witnessed my mother doing any of this. My mother had a checking account.
She had a savings account. My mother would write her bill. She would, she would get her paycheck. I, I remember like it was yesterday.
We would go to the bank. She would get money orders for every damn bill she had. And then she would send out the money orders for these bills. She did not want a checking account.
I don't know what scared her about it. She didn't want the checking account. I don't know whether she had a bad experience with it, whether she witnessed somebody with a bad, I don't know. Her thing was, no, I ain't getting no checking account.
I'm not writing out no checks. I'm going to go to stand in this line every Friday and get money orders. And it used to drive me nuts. I'm like, Ma, are you for real?
Just get a check. It's the same thing. Just get the check. No, uh-uh.
You're going to pay 50 cent a dollar for a money order every week, right? So I never saw her do any of this, right? I saw her pay everything from one kitty, right? And then I always say, I don't have no money.
That is a mindset. Do you know what I'm saying? That is a mindset. And so the thing here is that, A, this is a mental transition.
This is a new something. I want everybody to be more trained in their brains with how to allocate and how to do things separately because you're teaching some sort of financial independence in a way.
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So you had your six accounts, all business accounts. Now you got personal. Guess what you're gonna do in personal? Break it down. Okay, so in personal, I really only have — that's not, I have like five. Okay, so I have, this is what they call — because I haven't really named these — but then you got, I got my primary checking, I've got a spending account, I've got a long-term savings, I've got a short-term savings, and then, and I don't even talk to you, Roger, about this anyway, but then I have, I have a Josiah account. There's the other thing too, I advise this for my clients: your financial freedom account is your septic tank. Can you put in 15% of your personal income into that account? That's this right here, okay. So this is technically my account. That's what I'm talking about, FFA. When I think of long-term savings spending, I think of one year's contingency fund. So let's say this right here, one year, one year for what? Let's say emergency. I wouldn't — that's this. Well, okay, that's what I'm saying, okay, some sort of savings account. Okay, yeah, I'm not talking about the financial freedom account. Okay, short term, yes, six months to a year, whatever you're building that up. Your FFA is totally different. This is the golden goose. We're not touching this, period. This now — so you get paid your two thousand a week, right? For example, you can pay your two thousand a week, your two thousand a week goes into this every single week, and you pay your bills from this. You do that.
Now, here's what I do though. So I will take ten percent — I'm still breaking it down, right — so I had to make twenty thousand dollars in my revenue, my company, right, to get down to where I got, let's just say, two thousand dollars a week, right. Of that two thousand a week, I'm gonna take two hundred dollars and I'm gonna put it into my spending account. Why? Because I work hard. Am I supposed to just keep looking at the bank account and just look at it, or should I be enjoying the fruits of my labor, right? I mean, really, give me a break. You're gonna work this hard, you're gonna travel, you're gonna work with people, you're gonna do all this that you're trying to do, and then you're gonna tell me anybody that you don't deserve a new leather jacket for the wintertime?
Yeah, you don't have an account for taxes, for personal? No, I really don't. I probably need one, because therein lies my problem. Yeah, I need to have that. You said, right, because this money, this is my — I'm payroll, I'm W-2 for myself, which would be, what, like 30 percent? Yeah, something like that. It's the highest tax rate right now is 39.6, so yeah, somewhere around 30 something, right. That's another reason why I don't pay myself that much, because I'm gonna get taxed at a higher bracket. So if I can pay most of my stuff out of my — if my company can pay for my car note, my boat, and do all of that, then my 2000, I don't need a lot coming in personally because it's already being taken care of over here, being deducted. And if I'm not a write-off, this is not — this is not write-offable personally. Yeah. The great thing about that is you're going back on when people are asking why set up yourself as your own entity, an LLC or an S corp or whatever, because you get a better deduction, yes, you know, out of that. So those expenses that you're taking out of the company, instead on that personal side, that's right, it's going to help offset the operating income or the revenue for the company, as well as personal, you know, so it'll help offset even some of that income that you do make. Most definitely, absolutely, great point, Carl. So see, so then what happens is, because I don't have it set up right where I can — I'm so used to on the business side, I can see it, see it, see it, right, I just write a check, go. But over here I have this cringe, right, I hate, I hate to write a check from this to them. Do you know something? Like, y'all — they do none of this, y'all, y'all not, y'all not doing under the work, y'all not standing up here with me, y'all not doing that, right.
Do you have any personal tax account? Yeah, a savings tax account — this is what I need to do, this is what I need to do, right, a personal tax account. So for those of us that don't have — how would we label personal tax account? Just put personal tax account, just replace that. I got six, you got five. All right. And the other thing too is that when they have money for taxes, they should be looking to file their taxes quarterly. Yes, which is another thing that I do. Yes. So the end of the year — way to the end of the year, you're gonna be stuck like Chuck. Yeah, owing fifteen thousand dollars, as an example. Yeah, you can't — you have no money to pay for it. Yeah, do you have to, you know, play catch up and payment plan or whatever, you could do whatever, right. But this is the breakdown, okay.
So no, the savings account — that is the business, is the business, okay. These savings account, these are saving account, these saving accounts are for the personal. So primary checking is just a regular everyday running — oh, let me go to Target, let me go to whatever I got to do, that's this, is 10% of this. And this is — oh, you know what, I want to take my family out to a nice dinner, why not, you got money in the account, and guess what, this money is not affecting your bills. See, most people, Christmas for example, everybody do what — go broke. Okay, buying all these Christmas toys for kids that don't play with Christmas toys or whatever, right, and they're buying it out of here. But you know, if you're going to celebrate Christmas in that way, that's what you do, and you're going to buy — you're going to spend stuff, you know, every year you're going to do that, you know, every year that you're going to do that. So why not have an account set up so that you're consistently throughout the year adding money to this account, and now when it's time to go Christmas shopping, you get fifteen thousand dollars up in here, and if you want to blow it all on your kids, or somebody else's kids and these are the nephews, you can do that. And guess what, your bills not affected by that.
I don't — I keep mine in regular, to me, because it's ongoing to me, it's not a luxury. Like, that's not — for me, like, I want to think and get my nails and pedicure today, that's not a luxury to me. This is — this is a necessity in the life of a woman, you understand what I'm saying. This is — me and my dad were talking about this, he said, you know, you guys sure do spend a lot of money on like hair and nails and all this different type of stuff. Well, yeah, we do, it's maintenance. Now, me and you do haircut, right, of Herschel — maybe not haircut, right, but the thing is shaving the fuzz. But that is not — that is not in my mind. You can break up how you want to break it up, it's not a right or wrong, but to me this is so ongoing that this is like a bill to me. I need it just like I got to pay for groceries. It's going to happen every two weeks. With or without anything, this has got to happen. Spending is — my nephew says, "Auntie, this is your last year," right?
Because he's just turned 18. "Auntie, this is the last year you got to take me school shopping." "Oh, thank you, David." "And I was wondering if we could negotiate on how much you give me for Christmas shopping — I mean for school shopping." Now, since David was like five or six years old, this is what we would do, right?
He would want me to take him school shopping, and I would say, "David, let me teach you about money, right? A, let's start, let's negotiate on what is necessary, right? When you was five years old, kindergarten, all this is not necessary, right?" And as he went up through the years, he got better with negotiating, right? So now we're 18, and he's like, "This is your last year."
So this is what I was thinking. Let me tell you how this kid — all right, this kid has seen me go up, down, all around with money, businesses, everything, right. So this kid comes to me, he says, "Okay, Auntie, this is what we're going to do." He said, "I want to take you to lunch." I said, "Okay."
So we went to lunch. Took me to lunch, had a nice little lunch, came on back home, said, "Okay." So we sit down, he said, "Okay, are you ready to talk now?" "Yes, dear, I'm ready to talk." He said, "This is what we're going to do."
"What we're going to do is I'm going to put the number on my cell phone, and I'm going to turn it down, and I'm going to slide it to you, right?" I said, "David, who do you think you are?" He said, "Auntie, you've taught me well. I have to get better on my negotiations, but I know I'm supposed to start high."
"There you go," I said, "don't be so high that it's looked at as, like, absurd, okay, where it doesn't even function." So this kid types in $10,000 on the phone, right? So he types it in, he turns the phone over, he slides it over to me.
So I look at the phone. I said, "David" — I said, "what do you think this is, David? You don't need no $10,000 for no school. You a senior in high school. What are you buying for $10,000?"
"No, no." "You don't work?" "No. No, sir."
"So come back with something else. We're not doing that. I don't care how much you think Auntie got. We're not doing that, okay?"
"Please say okay, I had to try." "Yes, you did." So he came back. I didn't respond to that.
There's no response to that. We're not going to start a negotiation at $10,000. So he comes back, I said, "What's the number?" So he puts down — I think he put like $1,000.
I said, "Now look how much more reasonable we've gotten just in three seconds. So we can start negotiating at $1,000, right?" So I come back, I said something like $500, right, and he came back, like —
"$850," right. Then we ended up at $650 at this point, right. Now, David also is very good with budgeting, right. In other words, if David sees some, like, he likes to skateboard on us, right, so he goes to a place called Zumiez, right.
So if he likes something in Zumiez and he turns around and then he goes to PacSun, and then he's almost over budget and he knows he needs to go to Foot Locker, he will very easily, without any restraint, take whatever back to Zumiez, get something lesser at Zumiez, right, to go get the difference, and go buy it at Foot Locker. So I know this about him. He is very rarely going to be like, "Oh, but Auntie, I need $700 now." He doesn't do that. He'll make it work, which I appreciate.
That's why I give him that, because he'll work it out where he gets what he needs to get. Now, his mother, on the other hand, was still like, "He ain't buying nothing. I don't see nothing worth $650, right." And so that's just her perspective of what it is, but it doesn't make a difference. That's what he got.
That's what it was. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to buy it. That's what the bills was.
So for nails, things like this, I use it as primary checking. Spending, things like when I give money to my nephew for his school shopping, that's random, right. Now Josiah, on the other hand, who's a baby, right, who's one year old, him, I'm just putting money in the account just for him, just every month. So that's kind of my background for him.
I'm driving right down the road for a couple minutes, and I come back, they may have used $5 in gas. What's an FFA? Financial freedom account. All right. So yeah, so don't get, don't get so anal with this that you drive yourself nuts and you're like Rayman, like $45,000, $25,000.
Like, don't do that. Just, you know what I'm saying? This is what I'm saying, like, don't, don't go overboard with it, okay.
This is a month, and this is a month, right? That's 10%, all right. Now this, this right here, this takes discipline. This you don't touch, ever, ever, ever, ever.
And when I say don't touch, it means you don't touch, like withdraw. You don't withdraw. This is your seed, your, your seed money. This is — let's say I know somebody that has an idea, and I want to invest in a business that's coming out of this, right. Why?
Because it's not coming to me. It's coming straight out of that, into the investment of some, some, something. And then whatever return I have for that, something is going to come back to this. Now, there are other entities that you can use too, right, and I might even transfer this money to another one of my entities that I have.
Just depending on how I plan on doing some things coming up, you know, this next 12-month period of time. But like, I have a Roth IRA, right? I have a health savings account too, right?
Like, these are whole, all, all these different things, but like with your health savings account, correct me if I'm wrong, from what I understood, 'cause I would put money aside for medical, right, things like that. Because I would need to go to the doctor once a year. It's like everybody, every other woman, right.
So I would put money aside for that, and then if I had to go, I want that to be an expense, right, because I'm like, well, shoot, I work for my company, right, and any other company will have like insurance, you know, or, you know, you pay, company pays something, you pay whatever you got going on, right.
And I want to be — I want my company to pay for my doctor's visits. So the thing was, well, you should probably set up a health savings account, because if — if I did on the business side, if I deduct the money from the dentist on my business side, if I spend the money for the dentist on the, on the business side, it's not a deduction. It would be a deduction if I took the money out of the business account, put it into the health savings account, and then when I went to the dentist, I paid into this from the health savings account. Now it's a deduction, right?
So it's like all these different little things. I'm saying like, I'm just want to throw ideas, like just to share with you what, what things are possible. Like, you don't have the conventional knowledge that most of us have was not this, right. I don't know, I've never witnessed my mother doing any of this.
My mother had a checking account. She had a savings account. My mother would write her bill. She would, she would get her paycheck. I, I remember like it was yesterday.
We would go to the bank. She would get money orders for every damn bill she had. And then she would send out the money orders for these bills. She did not want a checking account. I don't know what scared her about it.
She didn't want the checking account. I don't know whether she had a bad experience with it, whether she witnessed somebody with a bad — I don't know. Her thing was, "No, I ain't getting no checking account. I'm not writing out no checks. I'm going to go to stand in this line every Friday and get money orders."
And it used to drive me nuts. I'm like, "Ma, are you for real? Just get a check. It's the same thing. Just get the check."
"No." "You're going to pay 50 cent a dollar for a money order every week, right?" So I never saw her do any of this, right. I saw her pay everything from one kitty, right. And then I always say, I don't have no money. That is a mindset.
Do you know what I'm saying? That is a mindset. And so the thing here is that, A, this is a mental transition. This is a new something. I want everybody to be more trained in their brains with how to allocate and how to do things separately, because you're teaching some sort of financial independence in a way.
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