Leaders Calling You: Stop Emailing for Access and Start Producing a Number
You send the email. You wait. Nothing comes back. You send another one, a little more polite this time, a little more careful about not sounding needy, and still nothing. Meanwhile you watch other people get phone calls, personal invitations, a seat at the table you can’t find the door to. You start to wonder if there’s a secret handshake nobody taught you, some inner circle with a locked gate and a password you’ll never guess.
There isn’t. There’s just a result, or there isn’t one yet. That’s the entire mechanism behind who gets noticed in this business and who doesn’t, and it shows up in an exchange Dave Wood had on stage with a leader in his own organization named Rob, in a segment of the Classic Masters Course built entirely around one short, blunt story about access.
Why does chasing the inner circle get you nowhere?
Rob’s story starts with him doing exactly what most people do when they want to get close to someone successful: he went looking for the secret. He joined one of Dave’s programs specifically because it promised access to an “inner circle,” a phrase that’s designed to make you feel like there’s a room behind the room where the real information lives.
As Rob tells it, he only joined in the first place because he assumed there was a secret waiting on the other side of the membership. He joined, then asked where the inner circle was. He got redirected to another program. He joined that one too, asked again, and got told that one had been discontinued but a new one was coming. He joined a third thing chasing the same promise. Every time, the door moved.
That’s not a knock on Dave specifically. It’s how access works everywhere. The people who already have credibility get to define what “inside” means, and they can keep defining it indefinitely, because the thing people actually want isn’t a room or a subscription. It’s proximity to someone who can shortcut their learning curve. Chase that directly and you’ll be joining programs forever, always one step behind whatever the current version of the real inner circle is supposed to be.
What actually gets a leader’s attention?
Here’s where the story turns. While Rob was joining things and asking about inner circles, he was also, separately, quietly building something real: an SEO-focused funnel that was feeding people into Dave’s organization without Dave having any idea who was behind it.
Dave found out by accident. A webinar showed up promoting a new SEO guy, and Dave, curious, looked into who it was. It turned out to be Rob, already sitting in his own downline, already producing. As Dave describes discovering it in the Classic Masters Course, “I was like, who’s this Rob for? And I looked him up, and he’s in my team making me like $2,000, $3,000, $4,000, $5,000 a month. That’s how I knew you were in my team.” Dave hadn’t called him. Hadn’t invited him anywhere. Rob had simply been producing, on his own funnel, using his own skill set, for long enough that the money made it impossible not to notice.
That’s the whole lesson. Rob didn’t get pulled into the inner circle because he found the right program or asked the right question. He got pulled in because he generated a number that was too large to ignore, sitting quietly inside a spreadsheet Dave was already looking at.
Why does producing beat every other strategy for getting noticed?
Rob understood exactly what he was doing, and he says so plainly. Dave wasn’t responding to emails. There was no phone number to call. The normal channels people use to get a leader’s attention simply weren’t available to him. So he changed his approach entirely.
You said the best thing that you can do is produce a result. Then the leaders will start calling you. So to get Dave’s attention, he wasn’t paying attention to my emails. He had no phone, but I could never get a response. So I said, well, all I’m going to have to do is just kick ass, so he pays attention.
Read that again slowly, because it’s not a throwaway line. It’s a decision to stop trying to manufacture a relationship and start manufacturing a result instead. Most people, faced with silence from someone they admire, do one of two things: they keep emailing, hoping persistence alone will eventually get answered, or they quietly give up and assume the door was never open to them in the first place. Rob did neither. He treated the silence as information, decided the channel he was using wasn’t going to work, and picked the one channel that always works in this business regardless of who’s on the other end of it: numbers.
That framing, produce a result and let the leaders come to you, isn’t something Rob invented on the spot. It’s something the room had already been circling for a few minutes before he said it plainly, half-remembered, half-attributed, the kind of line that gets passed around a stage until nobody’s quite sure anymore who said it first. Nobody in the room disputes it. Nobody needs to, because Rob is standing right there as the proof.
What does this mean if you’re not being noticed yet?
If you’re newer, or quieter, or simply not yet plugged into whatever informal network the top producers in your company talk inside of, it’s easy to read that as exclusion. It can feel like there’s a group of people who already know each other, already trust each other, already trade information you’re not getting access to, and no amount of effort on your end changes that if nobody lets you in.
That feeling is real, but the conclusion is wrong. Leaders aren’t withholding a password. Most of them are simply busy, and most of them are watching numbers, not inboxes. An email from someone with no track record competes for attention against a hundred other things demanding the same five minutes. A result competes against nothing, because a result shows up on its own, in the reports, in the commissions, in the conversations other people start having about you before you’ve said a word to anyone.
This is also why the story includes the earlier moment, the part where Dave actually did call Rob, back when Rob was trying to get a refund over a part of the program he didn’t like. Dave doesn’t call people often, by his own account, and he made an exception there because Rob had already shown himself willing to act, to invest, to try something rather than just watch from the sidelines. Rob describes what Dave said on that call: “Well, he calls me, and Dave doesn’t call anybody hardly ever. He calls me and goes, well, here’s the deal. I’ll give your money back if you really want to be a wussy and quit. He says, but somebody’s going to make $15,000 a month off of your list. Will it be you or somebody else?” Attention follows action at every stage of this, not just at the finish line. The person who acts gets a phone call over a refund dispute. The person who produces gets pulled into rooms nobody invited them to ask about.
So if you’re waiting on a response, an invitation, a nod from somebody further along than you, stop refreshing your inbox and go build the number that makes refreshing unnecessary. Leaders aren’t hard to reach. They’re just easy to ignore until you’ve given them a reason not to.
This is one story out of a full lesson in the Classic Masters Course, where Dave and the leaders around him break down exactly what separates the people who get pulled into real mentorship from the people who spend years emailing a locked door. If you’re new to it, the entire Classic Masters Course, this lesson included, is available for $99 at the Classic Masters Course.
Full lesson transcript
Lightly edited from the original recording — fillers removed, nothing added. Income disclaimer.
I can tell you exactly how many times I've called them, you know, pump them up. Give them a round of applause, everybody. This guy knows what's up, but just tell them how it is. Yeah, so this is how it happened. So we're at this event, and Dave and Dave are doing some kind of crazy thing on the whiteboard talking about Empower Network, and we're going to give 100% commissions, and everybody's going to make a bazillion dollars.
So I gave you a check and walked out of the room because I farted, and I was kind of embarrassed. You know, I made it stick. But then I see, later I took a look at it and investigated, and there was a part of the program I didn't like. So I sent Dave an email. I said, hey, Dave, you know, if you wouldn't mind, please give me my money back.
I don't want to do this crazy-ass thing. Well, he calls me, and Dave doesn't call anybody hardly ever. He calls me and goes, well, here's the deal. I'll give your money back if you really want to be a wussy and quit. Will it be you or somebody else?
So he called to pump me up by calling me a wussy, and then reminded me why I'm in business, and it worked. Yeah, it did. It worked a lot better. Now, this is a case example, though, of somebody, because Rob's in my team in multiple things, right? Now, you joined me in the system, right?
And, you know, he joined so he could get to know me. I don't even think I called you, did I? No, he never called me, and the neat thing was I only joined because I thought he would tell me the secret. You know, he had this inner circle thing, and he said, if you join, I'll let you in the inner circle. So I joined, and I sent a note, where's the inner circle?
He goes, oh, that's in this other thing. So I joined that, too, and I go, where's the inner circle? He goes, oh, we got rid of that, but join this thing, and we'll come up with another one. No, I realize this is a funny story. There's this webinar about, Rob's an SEO guy, you know what I mean?
And there's this webinar about this new SEO guy. I was like, who is this guy? I didn't remember. I was like, who's this Rob for? That's how I knew you were in my team.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and well, you had said it earlier, or maybe you said it. You said the best thing that you can do is produce a result. Then the leaders will start calling you. So to get Dave's attention, he wasn't paying attention to my emails.
He had no phone, but I could never get a response. So I said, well, all I'm going to have to do is just kick ass, so he pays attention. Yeah, exactly. Let's just give Rob a round of applause. Thank you very much.
Yeah.
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