Starting With No Experience, No Skills, and No Money (with John Wells)

Hey, folks, this is Dave Wood talking to you from my home out in the mountains in Costa Rica. I'm here with a special guest today, John Wells. Now, I met John, actually, when I was going around speaking at a couple of events. I stopped in Las Vegas. We did an event in Las Vegas.

About 50 people showed up. I actually don't know if John even lives near Las Vegas. He drove from like four hours away. But he showed up, and we were asking people to tell their stories about their experiences with Empower Network in this meeting. And I said, what?

So I actually had to look him up. I looked him up in the member database, and he has, I think you're right at around $30,000, John. I don't know the exact number. So what we're going to do is we're going to dig into his story a little bit, what he did, what he's doing for marketing right now. And also, I'm going to step back in.

Because I noticed a couple things in his account, and he should be making about twice as much money as he is. So we're going to teach him how to do that as well on that and have a lot of value for all of you. So anyways, John, I don't want to ramble on and on and on. Great to have you on the interview. If you could just start off by maybe sharing a little bit about yourself, your background, why you got started into Empower, what you were doing before this, what attracted you here, and kind of what happened.

That'd be great. I'll just kind of mute myself out here. And if you need anything more specific on what to talk about, just let me know, buddy. Great to have you on. Yeah.

I really appreciate being on this. It's definitely an honor to be a part of the movement. My name is John Wells. I'm actually 30 years old. I just turned 30 in January.

But I sound really young. So when people see me, they think I'm like 21. But really, I'm 30. And time is short, and I have to make moves. And because of that age, you have to move quick because you only live once.

But before this, I was in the real estate market back in 2003 to 2004. I've been in sales all my life, and I realized that when I got into that sector, I was in during the boom. It was ridiculous. And when I got in, I was making money like I've never imagined. But the problem there was is it didn't last very long, and a lot of people came in late.

But I bought a nice home. I had a nice car. I had everything. I'm living in Newport Beach in California, and I've had a million-dollar home. And all of a sudden, everything was tooken and swept right underneath me.

And I've lost everything. I became homeless. I only had my car. I slept in parks. Didn't know what I was going to eat the next day because I was struggling because everything was taken away from me because I didn't manage my money.

I mean, there was a lot of people in that market that just made a lot of money, but they spent it all, too. And I was one of those people that just accepted it. I just expected that I was going to make another sale the next day, so I didn't really have any worries. But after that, I became depressed. You know, six, seven months just struggling, and I didn't even want to go into any market with sales.

I didn't even want to strive for success anymore. I was just over it. And it just drove me here to Las Vegas, and I came here in Las Vegas around 2007, 2008. And I stayed here for four years. I mean, I was out on the strip passing out cards.

You see those little small cards? Those little smutters that pass out those little cards, you know, here, go to this night club or go to this escort service or whatever you want to call it. But I was hustling, and I just didn't want to do anything else. I just worked for my minimum wage, collected my checks, and just went home, ate, just lived my life. I just didn't want to do it anymore.

And one day, I just realized that I was fed up. I can't do this anymore. So I got back into the sales industry. And what I saw here in Las Vegas was there were boiler rooms. Everywhere I went, I hopped job to job to job to job to job to job.

I mean, I was really talented, and they would say, hey, I want you to manage this office. So I'm like, okay, so I'm going to have to work 7 in the morning until 10 at night. That's no life. And then they're only going to pay me a couple grand a month. That's ridiculous.

You know? And I'm just tired of it. I just got sick and tired of it, hopping job to job to job to job. I decided last year, the beginning of last year, to work from home. I found a direct sales company online, and it wasn't anything about recruiting people.

It was just selling stuff to businesses. I was just sick and tired of working for people, so I wanted to work for myself. So I started selling tools to businesses, and that worked for a while. And then that went downhill, and then I was back to zero again. And I always have no money in my bank account.

And then, you know, right when Empower came along, I was like, I'm going to have to do this. I'm going to have to do this. I had $300 to my name. And I saw it. I didn't know really what it was, but I didn't have a choice, because I don't want to go back and work for anybody.

I'm tired of that market. There's just no life. If you want financial freedom, it's just not going to work if you're going to go back to the job, because you've got to realize that each year, it's getting worse and worse and worse. And what that means is, if you realize, if you saw last year, borders shut down 399,000 people. I mean, there were the biggest bookstores that you can ever think of.

But now they're gone. Why? Because the offline market is moving to the online market. So as the years keep going, there's going to be less and less jobs, because everything is transitioning to the online market. And I saw that shift, and I had to be a part of it.

And when I came into Empower, I had $300. I didn't even have enough to go all in. So I sold a couple things in my house. My TV and some other stuff. So I still don't have a TV today.

But I went all in, I bought everything. And the reason why I've done so well is because I went all in and I learned all the strategies. I didn't know anything about internet marketing. Everything I learned was through the system, and I just followed everything in there. And I took action on a daily basis, and that's how I've made so much today.

And that's pretty much my story. That's hilarious, by the way. So you're one of those guys that passes out the cards when you're walking to the strip in Vegas? Yeah, pretty much. Dude, man, that's awesome.

Well, we should walk around passing them cards. I was hungry. I didn't have a choice, and I was desperate for work. You got to do what you got to do, man. I mean, there's no shame in just working when you can't find anything else.

You know what I'm saying? And it's better than being a job. I'm a job. I'm a job. I can do it.

I can do it. And that's why I got started. You can't find anything else. You know what I'm saying? And it's better than begging, you know?

I'm not a person that begs. You know, I just go out there and find a way to make money. They didn't even speak English, and I had to find out how they speak English because I couldn't get a job because all of them were Spanish. So … Yeah, yeah. No, dude, that's crazy, dude.

Really fascinating, by the way. And good to hear your story, because, of course, when I got started, I had nothing too. And it's so easy to turn it around when you just make a decision. And I mean, you just people are like, well, you know, it's so hard. I got to learn all this stuff.

Well, you didn't know anything, you know. So you'd never marketed before, right? You'd never blog. You didn't have a blog. You weren't like a blogging expert.

No. No list. You didn't have like a list of 50,000 people to slam. The only list that I had is maybe a few friends and some email addresses. Nothing fancy, you know.

Okay, okay. Because there's a thing on Facebook too. If you have Facebook, you can actually go to every one of your friends and click on them and they'll show their email address so you can pull email addresses from their profile pages. Did you do that? Yeah.

So you can pull. I mean, anybody can do that. A lot of people don't know, but it's just sitting right there on everybody's profile page. So, I mean, really, you can go in there and email everybody if you're wondering how to contact people. I mean, that's another place.

You can go. It's Facebook. Well, yeah, and there's a really common denominator between people who really kind of started with nothing and start producing a lot really quick is that they're just kind of shameless. You know what I mean? They'll try anything.

Once. You know, you'll try it once. And then sometimes it backfires, but, you know, you'll try it. So you just got in. You'd never done it before.

So what was it that had so much appeal for you here? Had you ever done network marketing before? I mean, you ever done meetings or hotel? Meetings or home meetings or any of that? I mean, you ever been in normal direct sales?

I've been in direct sales. I did network market a long, long time ago, but I have never had any success. I may be sponsored like one person and it just didn't work out years ago. Years. And you've sponsored a hundred something people here.

Yeah, I've been tricked many times when I was here in Vegas. You know, you got to come. There's this party and I'm like, OK, cool. And then they take me to this little event and, you know, it's like, you know, some network marketing company. Pitching and, you know, I get tricked a couple of times, but I've never decided on doing anything, you know, and until now.

Yeah, no, that's great, man. So you, you know, experience at all. And here you are. And I mean, I looked in your account and you're bringing in one to two people a day every day. It's kind of what you're averaging through the month.

I mean, think this month you brought in about 40 people on the front end. Yeah, every day. I mean, there's some I mean, there's just a big need out there. And when I was. In sales, it's not businesses anymore.

The biggest need in the market is people right now. There's a lot of people hurting and not just here in America, but all over the world. And we have so much opportunity with such a low, you know, tier program for people to get in. You can't be shy with this business. If someone tells you, no, it's twenty five bucks.

So, I mean, you have nothing to lose and move on. You know, I mean, it shouldn't be you shouldn't be ashamed of pitching this to people, you know, I mean, yeah, I mean, the online market is great. You don't have to talk to people. Ninety percent of my signups. I've never spoken to you, but, you know, you got to reach out to those people, too.

So if you're always asking what's what am I doing wrong and I go look at your Facebook wall and you haven't even put your link on there or you haven't talked to any of your friends about it, there's something wrong with that. You're ashamed of the business and you shouldn't be because we are the game changer in the market. There's nothing better than this out there right now. And there never will be because everything is just too expensive and it just it just doesn't work. And the conversions.

You know, the sales just won't come in this easy. Well, that said, it is easy. And that's the thing that we need to drill into people's brains is this is actually easy. They come in and there's a problem that we get, John, is people come into this and then they're like, it's going to be so hard because all this other stuff I did was hard and you're like, well, no, they're like, well, there's a there's a year long learning curve for blogging. And it's like, well, no, not here.

Here is start blogging. Right. Just start now. Now, here's a question. This is really good.

So we tell everybody to blog every day, right? Right. How many blog posts are on your power network blog? I have about six hundred forty articles on my blog right now. Now, did you write all those yourself?

Yeah, a lot of them has been written by me. Just I really don't try to focus on getting stuff to the top of Google because I'm doing a type of different strategy. I'm chasing keywords, but I'm trying to do mass content instead of just trying to focus on one or two articles and taking hours to write. Instead of that, it's like power blogging. So you write blogs that take 10, 15 minutes to write, just free flow and write as fast as you can and put as much as you can.

The more content you have up there, more chances of traffic coming to you. And that's how you can get a quick start on your blogging. It's just pushing out content as fast as you can. So everybody else is worried about like what to say and you just say, screw that. I'm writing about whatever I want, basically.

Whatever you want. And it doesn't really matter. And if you're if you're thinking, how does Google work? It doesn't matter. Google knows.

What to do once you put your stuff up, they know what to do with it. And when people search, they will find you. And it doesn't and it doesn't have to be on the first page of Google. And it doesn't have to be related to make money or anything that doesn't related to making money at all. It doesn't.

Well, I went on your blog the other day. I was talking about silver wheelchairs or something. I can't really remember what you're blogging about, but I read it and I wanted to click on the banner. So, you know, I was like, well, I want a wheelchair, too. But yeah.

So I think so. You write you have like 600 blog posts on your blog. You just do it. I mean, you don't you're not. You're questioning and you're not trying to be an SEO guru.

You're just blogging. You're just creating. Yeah. Oh, SEO, nothing. I don't focus on trying to optimize nothing.

I just put the, you know, the keyword in the phrase and maybe once in the title and the tag. That's really it. You don't really have to focus too much unless you're trying to get it to number one on Google. Yeah. Then you're going to have to sit there and try to do all that stuff.

But it's not necessary when you're new, because when you're new, you don't have a lot of content. So trying to focus on one. Two, three blogs and trying to get them to the top isn't necessary. Your focus when you first start is pushing as much content as possible because that's what's going to get you traffic fast. And what I've seen in 90 days and now I just put my analytics up, but I wouldn't recommend putting this on until you at least blog for 90 days.

There's no point tracking results until about 90 days. And now I see I'm getting like three thousand plus visitors a month from what I see from my statistics showing now. That's what I'm getting. And it's going to be. It's going to be nonstop if I quit today, which I probably wouldn't, that traffic will be steady for the next ten years.

No, that'll be that'll be, by the way, by the end of if you just keep doing it for the end of the year, that'll be at about two thousand, three thousand visitors a day. And you could get more. And I'll talk to you about that maybe in another maybe in another call. You actually could get a lot more traffic from that by a couple of small things. But so you're getting about three thousand visitors a month like right now.

Yeah, right now. OK, just from blogging, you don't know any you're not like a guru at SEO. You've never done any SEO. You don't spend hours back linking. You just put stuff up.

Yeah, just put stuff up. There's no point in back linking at the beginning when you're new. It's just focus on content. And then once you have enough out there and you're getting steady traffic, then focus on trying to rank stuff later. You know, well, yeah, I mean, this is the truth for me is I've actually gotten the most traffic towards the stuff that I've just put up.

You know, I have an idea. I write about it. It's interesting. People like it and they read it and they share it. You know, I get way more traffic from that anyways.

And then I. I outsource SEO. And once you've got money, you can hire somebody in the Philippines to do it for you or something like that. You know, it's cheap. So, OK, so you've done that and then you've done some advertising.

You took some money, you reinvest it back into ads and you've generated how many leads since you started? Probably about eight thousand leads. About eight thousand leads using our pages, just sending people our stuff. Just your stuff. OK, so you've generated eight thousand leads.

You brought in about one hundred fifty people here at Empower. You've made right around. And that's at twenty five. You've got a hundred people, twenty five. You've made around thirty thousand.

And last month your income, I think, was seventy seven hundred. And this month it was it's about sixty six hundred. We got about a week left. So you'll probably be you should be at ten thousand by the end of the month with what I'm going to tell you today. OK, you should be OK.

So I'm going to tell you how to get over ten thousand. You might just overshoot and hit twelve thousand if you do what I'm going to tell you. So we'll cover that. So where are you advertising? What are you?

Where did you learn your advertising? Where do you learn how to do it? And then what are you doing? Well, the thing is, because I didn't know Internet marketing, I realized that the first thing that anyone should ever do is invest in your education because that's the primary thing you should be doing first. Because if you if you go out and listen to these inner circle trainings and you hear something, you can't just go do it because you're not you're not doing it right.

You have to know exactly what people are doing and how they're doing it. And the proper way of doing it, because you're just going to lose a lot more money if you don't know what you're doing. And that's the reason why I did well is because I have all the products. I learned how to do video marketing and go viral on the Internet and get traffic all over the place because of the Costa Rica intensive. Wait, hold on just one second here.

Now, you said you started with only three hundred bucks. So how did you get all the products? No, I sold it. I sold some things and I bought the Costa Rica when I first started. So you ain't no wussy.

So all these people. We get people in and they're like, well, I don't have any money. I'll see how it works. You said you said, screw that. I'm just going to sell some shit and get all in.

Yeah, because here's the thing. You a lot of people think backwards like, oh, let me just join first and see how it works. Let me see if I can get a couple of leads. And after that, then I'm going to go upgrade later. That's actually thinking backwards because you're missing the big point and you're missing the big training without the proper training and tools.

You're just going out there guessing blindfolded. And if you want to. If you want to do this the right way instead of doing it half, you know, I don't want to swear, but, you know, you're just doing it halfway. You're not going to get anywhere, you know what I mean? So you got you got to step it up and you got to you got to buy everything because that's that's the way I learned it.

And how I generated eight thousand leads is because, you know, the 15K formula from Chuck Marshall and doing video listening to video for in there and showing how to do advertising for banners and all this other stuff. And now I generate leads all the time. And I sleep. So, I mean, I get sales all the time because I'm doing it the right way instead of going out there guessing and then say, oh, I'm going to upgrade later. It's best to get that because it's priceless of the stuff you're going to learn in there is it.

I mean, that's how I learned all this stuff. So I didn't know anything before, but, you know, I think the stuff in there is very valuable to me. No, no, it absolutely is. Well, I mean, you are new. You had no idea.

And I mean, I've I've seen people market for years on the Internet and not generate eight thousand leads. You learned how to do that here and you had never had any experience before. And you've done this all from scratch is actually pretty incredible. If you just look at the Internet space, you didn't need to go anywhere else. You didn't need to buy any high ticket courses to learn this stuff.

You just learned it here. And here you are. Yeah, that's badass. So let me ask you some more questions about this. So you didn't know anything.

You just learned it all in the 15K per month formula. And folks, if you're listening to this, just buy the dang 15K per month formula. You need it and you can earn a thousand dollar commissions from reselling it. If you're an affiliate here. So let's ask about let's ask about some other stuff.

Let's ask about some of the I want to dig into a couple of the issues that you've been having to where we can improve things. OK. And I also want to focus just a little bit into, you know, how to increase some of your email conversions and some of your other kinds of conversions and things like that. Because I know we talked about it before. But last thing I want to talk about.

Before we move into that. Are you going to Atlanta? The Atlanta. Why are you going? Because I believe that if you want to learn from the best of the best, these guys.

I mean, if you look at the top five in competition, those guys are there for a reason and they're not there by accident. And those guys are going to be standing on stage telling you guys exactly what they're doing, why they're doing it, why they're here. And there's a lot of breakthroughs at events, too, because a lot of this training isn't going to be taught to you any other way. So if you don't go, you're just going to miss out on a lot of a lot of good stuff. And I think that I really want to be there because I want to learn from the best and I'm not I'm not playing around with this business.

I'm actually taking it serious and I want to go somewhere with my life. I don't want to go back outside to the daily grind eight to five on the 405 freeway. You know how busy that one is in the L.A. freeway is one of the busiest freeways out there. But, you know, I don't want to go back to that life anymore.

And. You know, if you don't want to do that, you need to take just jump and buy a ticket and jump and get your over there. Even if you don't have a hotel room, sleep outside. I don't care that you just get the ticket and get there and you'll find a way, you know what I mean? But if you want a breakthrough and it's about your business, you've got to go seriously.

Well, you know, and I learned something along the way. You had been around the industry for a long time, John. I have and I've actually never missed an event with a company that I was involved with ever. And I've been in. Even when I wouldn't make any money, I didn't and I can say something.

It's that the things that I learned at those events are the reason why I have the life that I do now. It's just because you can't transpose that into an Internet thing. It's impossible. You can't put it into videos. You can't put the relationships that you build into an audio.

You just can't do it. They need to go. So I'm talking to all of you right now, just for a second, who have not bought your tickets. The price is increasing next week. Go, go buy them.

Hit the button that says, are you a wussy? Click here. It's obviously ain't a wussy. You're listening to the audio and get your dang tickets to the event. Sorry.

So let's get into what we can help you with. First of all, I mean, if this is a crowd, I'd ask everybody to give you a round of applause. I think you're doing a great job. You came in. You just listened.

Here you are succeeding. And that's proof that it works right. That what we teach works and it works in any business, not just here at Empower. So what are some of the things we talked about a couple of them earlier? But what can I do for you?

What can I help you with? And then I'm going to get into some other things that I just see from looking at your account that I know you're not doing or that I know that you could do a little bit differently. But what can I help you with the most? What do you want the most help with here? Probably the higher conversions.

I know a lot of people probably want that from the email. You're talking on the front end, like higher percentages, higher percentage of the front end. Right. Yeah. Now, just so everybody knows now you are doing predominantly.

So low, so low email, so low ads are going to have a lower front end conversion than something like PPC, direct mail leads, magazine ads, leads or SEO leads. OK, you're never going to get like if I could get 20 percent through SEO or, you know, really targeted PPC campaign, I'm never going to quite convert that high with solo ad lists because they're just a different kind of buyer. Does that make sense to you? Yeah, it makes sense. OK, so but you can get higher than what you're getting right now.

And you're getting right now it sounded from talking to you earlier about two and a half to three percent conversions, which is enough to profit because the leads are so cheap. What's your cost per lead? Do you know? Pretty cheap. I mean, it can be anywhere from 10 cents up to 50 cents a lead, sometimes a dollar.

It just really depends on what list I'm on and stuff like that. But it ranges from 30 cents to a dollar lead. 30 cents to a dollar lead. OK. So I think you're doing a pretty good job.

So I think that's what I would say that you should be doing. And then you can go ahead and just tell me your other questions. And then I'll let you answer these questions. But we can do it now. OK, so this is a question that I just saw and looking at your account.

Now that you've been marketing for a while, there's some things that you've got. All right, that you're not using. All right. Now, this isn't something that you could have done when you're new. All right.

But you can do it now. So for the people that are listening to this who are brand new, do it. John did when he was new, which is he copied our swipe, emailed it out. Wrote blog posts three times a day. Not once.

Three times. Right here. If you're going to do this, you've got to do this for at least six months. You can't quit. You've got to blog because this traffic that I got in 90 days, I can't quit now.

If I don't make any money, I've got to pay that membership because that traffic is going to keep going up and up and up and up as it gets older and as it creates age, Google sees it as more authority so it pushes up the rankings naturally. You've got to just keep at it and keep doing the blogging and follow the trainings and that's what I did. There's no magical bullet. That's what I love about this, man. It's the people who take action and don't care if it's perfect.

They get the results every single time. You know what I mean? Yeah. Every single time. Let's talk about the next thing that I noticed that you could really, really, really make a lot of extra money from.

I'm going to talk about promotions but then I'm going to talk about regular opportunities. Let's talk about promotions first because I already talked about using the story. Let's talk about running a promotion. This is something that you can just do when you've got a team. If you've got a team, you could do it.

You could do it even if you've got 50 people on your list, you could do it. I talked to Scott Slatev how to do it earlier this month and he's seen me do it a million times so he just copied what I've done and he just did it and he's made a bunch of money. The reality is if you do it, if you do it, you're going to get it. Right? Right.

It works every single time. Fair play? Yeah. Here's what you need. You need some sort of thing that you're going to do for people if they take action.

The action is going to be to purchase all the products or to purchase a specific one. Maybe you want to promote one product. For example, you want to promote the Costa Rica Intensive. Great product, right? Maybe that's the product that you're here to promote.

Right. Maybe you want to promote something else. Maybe you're going to promote the 15K formula. You want it to be something where they have to take action. It could even be for just upgrading and getting your subscription active on the inner circle.

That could be the promotion. The point is that with a promotion, promotions are something that you can run about twice a month. Okay? Okay. All right.

Well, that's pretty far beyond that and people just get tired. You got to get a lot of leads. Right? You got to get a lot of leads. Right?

Because then the new leads, they don't know. Because you just got them in the last week. Right? Yeah. But twice a month, you can run a minor promotion and a major promotion.

All right? Twice a month. So you haven't done this at all. I'm looking at your list. If you do it with one of the expensive products, you could pick either the Costa Rica Intensive or the 15K formula, or you could just call it the all-in club, right?

Right. You'll go over 10,000 this month. You just will. All right, now if you don't, we'll pull you on a call. We'll say, what did you do wrong?

We'll fix it, okay? But here's what you do. Come up with something you're going to do for people that's special, right? Right. What are you going to do for them that's special, right?

For example, maybe you want to do a team mentoring call where you're going to help them create a 90-day action plan, right? Right. But you're only going to do it if they buy the 15K formula in the next 72 hours, right? Right. Now you've seen me do stuff like this, right?

Yeah, I see it all the time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. All the time we do it. Now every time we do it, we do a bunch of sales. That's why we do it, right?

Because I don't particularly want to be on calls all day, right? It's awful. Right? So I don't actually. I don't really do a terrible amount of calls, but I'll go through bursts where sometimes I'll do three or four calls in a day for three or four days in a row because of a promotion.

And then that's a lot of calls for me, right? I don't really do a ton of calls. But so what you do is you say, hey, guys, here's the deal. Look, you use your story, right? A lot of you don't know my story.

I haven't really been heart to heart with you. So you notice how Dave and I are always so open and authentic. We're always talking about what we went through. The reason is, is because people like it. And it connects them to us.

And it makes other people take action like we took action. Right? Make sense? It makes total sense. So you say, hey, guys, look, here's the deal.

I haven't shared with you guys my story a lot, but I want to connect with all of you who are on my list. I got started with nothing. I was busted. I had 300 bucks. I was so desperate for food.

I was walking around. I was one of those guys in Las Vegas handing out the pictures of the ladies, right? On the side. Yeah, I'd use that because it's funny, right? Like, it's funny.

Like, most people would disconnect themselves from that, not realizing that if they were hungry, they would do it, too. Right? If my wife needed to eat and I didn't have work and I lived in Vegas, I'd do it. You know what I'm saying? I'm shameless, right?

Protect my family, right? So use it. I mean, that's low. But the point is, is if you go low, everybody relates and connects to that, right? You say, I got started and I followed a secret process that I'm going to teach you guys.

And you guys know because, obviously, you're in. But here, let me show you some screenshots. Let me show you the results that I've created. Let me show you the amount of people I've signed up. Keep in mind, guys, I never marketed.

I never had a list. I've built a list of 8,000 people. Now, I'm actually going to teach you guys what I've done. I'm going to do a series of team coachings this month where I'm going to pull you guys together as my team on these calls, all right, or on the webinars or whatever they are, right? My goal is to help five people.

But I got a rule, and that's no wussies allowed, right? Right. So here's the deal, right? Here's the deal. If you upgrade and purchase all of the products and get your event tickets in the next 72 hours, you're in the club.

If not, sorry, you're going to have to wait. I'm telling you something, guys. You're not going to be able to recover if you can't get on these trainings. Whatever you've got to do. Take action.

I'm available for calls for the next couple days. Hey, if you want to talk to me before I start the training, I'll talk to you for 15 minutes. But the real time is going to be reserved for the people that are in the club because I want to run with some people. I don't want to walk and kind of drag a bunch of people around and say, come on, guys. I'm yanking you.

I want to run with some people that are sick and tired of the bull crap. They're sick and tired of not making the money they want. Are you in or are you out? Go ahead. Hit the button below the video.

Take action. Get all in. Stop being a wuss. We'll see if you're sitting on the sidelines and get in the damn club. Right?

I just want to pull out my credit card. Don't you? I mean, don't you? You know what I'm saying? Like, isn't that a compelling story?

Yeah. But see, this is what you can do. Before you get a story, you've just got to do what you're taught because you can't go out there and say, Oh. Oh, yeah. I'm getting 50 leads a day.

Let me show you how. And they're like, well, show me. And you're like, well, because you're not getting them. Right? So you can't use other people's stories until you get your own story.

But see, here's the beauty of where you're at, John, is you're in this space to where you've just, you're right in front of the line. Right? Right. That's how fast it can go. It's not difficult.

But in order to do that, you've got to grasp this concept and just use it in your story. Does that make sense? Makes sense. Yeah. Okay.

Last thing I want to talk to you about that I just noticed. And then we'll be done. I think this is, is this helping you? Yeah. Yeah.

A lot. Okay. So you can do a promotion like that. You can do a promotion like that twice a month. Do a minor one.

And you could do it for each product. For example, what you could do is you could do. Right? We'll talk. Okay?

Okay. And I think you should fight for that because you could do it. Right? Yeah. That's how fast I think your income should grow.

Okay? And I think that you need to get, work your butt off to get as much of your team as possible to that event. Just call them. I mean, if you need to. And just say, hey, get your butt there.

Are you going to be in Atlanta? Say, no. Well, if you're not in Atlanta, dude, I'm sorry. You're in the all-out club because I'm not going to talk to you ever again. Just tell them.

Just say, hey, you got to get your butt to Atlanta. It says, are you a wussy? Click here. And are you a wussy? Well, no, you ain't a wussy.

Well, then click the button and damn, go to Atlanta. So, but no, seriously, do what you got to do to get your team to Atlanta. And if you do that, so how do you do it? You promote one product. Right?

Right. Make it a minor one. And then you promote another product. And then you just do the next one. And then you promote all in.

So, you could go in like a cycle. So, you would do the inner circle. Then you promote the Costa Rica intensive. Then you promote the 15K formula. And then you promote getting all in.

Does that make sense? Yeah, it makes sense. Okay, cool, cool. All right. Last thing is how to upsell your new members.

Right? Right. Personally. And you're getting the people in that you're sponsoring. You're getting them in.

And you're selling the front end product, the blogs, just through email, right? Yeah. Okay, that's great. If you do something, I explained this. Did you hear that?

I'm echoing a little bit. You hear that? Yeah, it's okay. Yeah, okay, okay. It's fine.

So, if you do, have you seen that bonus video in the Costa Rica mastermind that I did? The bonus? Yeah. Yeah. Well, you've seen it, so I don't want to tell everybody what it is.

Everybody who's watched or listened to this, buy the Costa Rica Intensive. You don't have it already, and just to listen to the bonus, it's worth it, right? You remember what I said in there on what to do to position your new people to get on the phone with you? Yeah. Yeah.

I've heard the training before, and I hear you all the time on the upgrades, and I'm starting to do it. I'm getting better at it. Well, it's all positioning. Upgrades are all positioning. Okay?

Okay, I see it. You see it? If you want to increase the goals, that's fine too. Can you register for this right now and pick a time that you'll be done before you talk to Dave? Can you do that with me on the phone?

I'll register right now. What time are you going to be there just so I can jot it down? I'm going to put 6 o'clock. 6 o'clock? 6 p.m.

Just tell me when you're registered because I'm going to tell you to do one more thing. Okay, I'm done. Okay, this next page, you've got a free audio that you can download. You just need to share a link on Facebook. I want you to go ahead and do that now.

All right, and download that audio. I want you to listen to that audio tonight, attend the webinar before the conversation with Dave. Can you promise me to do that? I can do that. All right.

Awesome, ma'am. So I've got you booked in for tomorrow for 2.30. You should get an email confirmation, and we'll talk to you then. Sounds good. Thank you so much.

Now, here's the thing. Here's the thing, right? Is that easy? You know what I'm saying? Is that easy?

Yeah, that's really easy. See, now here's the difference when you show up. Now, I tell you what to do on your end in that bonus video. So if somebody wants to know, well, what do I do when I show up? Well, then go watch the bonus video and do what I tell you to do in the bonus video, right?

But it's literally so cheap. You can team up with somebody. You can do it with somebody else. But then you're showing up, right, as like this amazing person. It's like you're cheating.

You know what I mean? Now, instead of showing up, the person's like, yes, John, what do I have to do to be on the team, right? See, now you're not selling. They're selling you on why they get to buy everything, right? Right.

So then you just show up, and you do what I tell you to do in that coaster. But does that help? Does that make sense? Oh, yeah. That does.

It definitely does. I think I have a new plan. Yeah, so if you do that, here's what you do, okay? You combine story with promotional cycles, okay, with that on a daily basis. That's your daily method of operation.

Then twice a month, run a minor and a major promotion that's based on you, okay? I'm just telling you're doing something wrong. Is that cool? Yeah, that's cool. All right, Rockin' Brother, we are good to go.

So everybody listen to this audio. A couple assignments that I've got for you if you're listening to the audio. And then I'm going to get a final word of advice. Actually, John, any final words of advice for people before we let them go? Stop second-guessing yourself.

Do what it says in the core videos. That's all you need. There's nothing special you need outside of Empower Network. All the products are in there that are going to teach you what you need to get to whatever income you want to get to. Because I've done it all with these products.

I haven't Google-searched one thing outside of Empower. I've done everything within. So if you guys really want to do it, just follow along and follow the lessons that are already provided. Well, Rockin' Brother, I sure appreciate you. It's very easy for you to do, by the way.

And congratulations. I'm just doing a great job. Everybody else listening to this, you're in two groups of people. You're making money. And if you're not, do what he said to do in the beginning half, right?

Is that easy, John? And be in Atlanta, for God's sake, because you'll be six months behind the people who ain't there if you don't go. So does that work, John? Is that good advice? Yeah, that works.

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