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The Power Of High Touch Marketing (With Thed Sims)

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To see our full income disclosure, please visit our website at www.empowernetwork.com forward slash income dot php. Hey everybody, this is Dave Wood talking to you from my home office out here in Costa Rica, and I'm on the line with Ted Sims. $1,600 or something like that in the last three days. So that being said, Ted, maybe we could start off with just telling a little bit about your story, your background, how you got into the niche, and what you were doing before, and also, you know, kind of how your story went, what you went through to kind of achieve your success. I know you've been doing this full-time for a few years from our conversation a few minutes ago, so is that a good place to start?

Yeah, that's a wonderful place to start. And, you know, first of all, I just want to commend you and thank you and Dave Sharp for putting together such a phenomenal vehicle for all of us to just, really just to excel, to empower our lives. So I truly thank you for that, because I think you've given us, you've given everyone what this industry has needed for a long time. So thank you for that. Well, thank you for being on board, my friend.

Appreciate it. Okay, well, you know, we've never really met Dave, but, you know, I'm an internet marketer. I do home businesses. I actually do other CPA-type stuff as well. For home business, you know, I really, for me in the past, I've mainly been involved in what I guess we call the big ticket.

I came into this industry, I think, full-time for at least 10 years, actually. So like everyone, when I first got started, yeah, it was tough, you know, when I first came into this industry. But after, I think it took me at least two, maybe three years to really, you know, learn how to really make it work for me. But, you know, I've been around. You know, I've been around.

A lot of people know of me, and I guess some people don't. But, no, I've been around, my friend. But I saw your vehicle, your industry, that would allow the residual. And I just loved it right from the start. I've always, I kind of saw you in the internet world.

You know, a lot of us see each other. We don't really know each other. And, you know, I've seen your marketing, you know, here and there. And, you know, I had always somewhat knew of you. And when I saw you.

When I saw what you had put together, I didn't know what to be right to the point. I had no, I wasn't aware that you're the genius person that you are. And, you know, once again, my hat's off to you. You know, I think, you know, you're phenomenal. But I had to come aboard.

A friend of mine that I've been working with off and on for years as well, Carol Dweck. And she sends me an email one day, I think she was in a marketing conference or something. And she said, Ted, you got to take a look at this and, you know, come on aboard. And I, the minute, well, the minute I truly looked at it, I said, okay, it makes sense. I like it.

I like what I see here. So I got involved and it's been going fairly well. I can't complain. Sure. You've had, we've had hiccups here and whatnot, but this is a phenomenal business.

What I like about Empower, it's actually for a lot of us, I can see it's actually empowering people to have hope, to it empowers people to literally dream again. You know, I'm actually, I've just turned 50 years old, and Empower reminds me of, it truly allows people to dream again. You know, when we were back, a lot of us, when you were younger, coming out of high school, early years in college, you know, whether you were going to be a guitar player or musician or athlete, you were just going to be great at it.

You just knew that it was going to happen. You were going to become very wealthy. You were just going to just rule the world. And somewhere along the line, you know, when you really get into life and you're doing this deal and that deal, it may not have worked out the way you thought it was going to work out where you thought, you know, you caught a young dream and one day, you might have thought it would turn out some kind of way.

You end up with a toy or you thought you've been to have a mansion and you are living in some small apartment, barely being able to keep your lights on. But when you're young, you know, you didn't know you can conquer the world. And when you can have hope and passion for whatever you're doing in that magnitude, man, you can win. Empower Network, it reminds me of it's giving people hope.

It's passion. You know, when you ask me, you say, well, what do you do? How do you get things moving where you're actually making money in Empower? Well, you have to be all in. I know for me, I'm all in here, you know, in a sense.

You have to truly be in it. And I mean really in it. And I'm all in. And, you know, that says it right there. But anyway, dude, I just can't say enough about your company.

It's great. I love it. And it's truly giving people, it's allowing people to dream and not only dream, fulfill their dreams. And I love it. Well, that's awesome, man.

It's great to have you on board, you know. And I always like to say there's different levels of thinking in the industry. And usually people that are kind of the older school that have been around the block, when they get involved and they see what we're doing, they really, really appreciate it. New people appreciate it, too. But people that have been around and had to do all their own upsells and had to do all their own training and had to put their own systems together to market something, they're like, oh, my gosh, you've got to be kidding me.

And so, you know, great having you in and your skills in. So let's, you know, let's delve into a couple things that you're doing here because obviously I'm interested in, you know, you've been doing this full time for years and have been having success and you've been doing mostly big ticket. And, of course, we're interested in that because as we go along, of course, Empower is going to be involved. We're going to make a total hybrid that's all the way from the low tier residual all the way up. And that's always been the goal here because we wanted to bridge all gaps in the industry.

Right. With Empower, which is something that nobody's really ever done successfully before. And I believe that we can because of the upsell scaling model. And I'm interested in how you market and what you do. And specifically, if we could get into what you primarily do and how you primarily get your leads and connect with people and make your sales.

Can we kind of start there? And can I ask some questions about that? Is that cool? Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. For me, I'm patient. Or sometimes, you know, I'm one, you know, you're saying the money's in the list. I totally believe in it.

So what I do, I concentrate on building a list. I try to be very honest and authentic with my list as for the messages that I send them on a daily or every other day type basis. And I just try to be myself. And I build a list. Now, how do you build a list?

Well, you know, that's when, you know, I do everything from running ads and USA Today. I do magazine ads. I do a lot of e-zine solo ads. Really love that. And I just concentrate on building the list.

And as you build the list, I like, I drip information on this opportunity or that opportunity or whatever I'm really trying to promote. And as I drip information, the next thing you know, someone's asking a question about this or asking a question about that. I try to make myself, I pride myself on being available for my team. I go as far as putting my actual phone number in emails, because I try to let people know, you know, the bad sponsors are out there where they want to make money from you to make their money.

And all of a sudden, they do their Houdini act where they disappear. Well, I try to let people know that's not Ted. Ted actually answers his phone. I go 150% for my team.

And by getting this message across, I think what happens is you become magnetic, where people want to join you. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, it makes a lot of sense. And so you focus on, and this is interesting because I find this is very common with people that have produced for a very long time.

You understand that the list is everything. And even for old schoolers, I mean, even people that have been doing meetings for years, I mean, they're continually adding a database, maybe through business networking or whatever it is. But they're constantly keeping in touch with their list. To give you an example that I think is funny, this is an old school example of somebody doing this, you know, is I don't know if you ever met Mark Yarnell.

You probably have if you've been around the industry for a while. But, you know, I called Mark one day, like two years ago, got him on an interview, got him on a conference call. And ever since then, about every 90 days to five months, I get a prospecting call from Mark. He gives me a call, wonders what I'm doing and wonders if I'm ready to get in with them yet. You know, they're always hilarious calls and always catches me off guard.

He's like, Hey, David. Mark Yarnell, how you doing? I'm like, Good, Mark. And he's like, Well, Dave, just, you know, giving you the six month holler. Oh, you know, but the thing is, that's old school and new school on the Internet.

That's text messaging. It's email. And what I found is I found that people have hung out on my list for sometimes two years and then decided to get in with me after two years. And the more consistent you are, a lot of people, they want this quick hit. But.

But it's not about the quick hit. It's about the relationship. It's about the culture. And that's a brilliant example, so you focus on building the list, solo ads, e-zines, and you generate leads like this and do some paid strategies. You might, if I ask how big your list is.

I'm just curious. I mean, you don't have to tell me, but you know how many people you got on that thing? You've been doing this for seven years, I imagine, quite large. Since I don't have to tell you, I won't tell you. You'll be secretive.

You're like five hundred. That's five hundred. Five hundred million. But no, no, it's a great, it's a great strategy. And I don't have a huge, huge list, you know, but, you know, I find, and this is with other people that I work with.

I personally try and mentor and coach them as for really to really break through, you know, where they're able to make that five, ten grand a month, you know, online. Well, you've got to build a list. There's no way around it. And when you have at least a couple of hundred, you know, I'm talking five hundred, whatever. You don't have to have a phenomenal amount of people, just having some people you build a rapport with, you be genuine with your list, you give them a few gifts here and there.

And, you know, it's a good thing. You know, they know that you're a real person. Once again, I try, I hope, you know, I'll talk to people, people will call me. I will actually talk to them.

I have people tell me so many times, Ted, I can't believe you answered the phone. You know, because they've been so used to working with other people that they call and they can never actually get hold of them. And when they see that they can, you're a genuine person. And, you know, I try.

I guess they can see that. Well, Ted's really going to do his best to help me. That's all people want. They just want someone there that will really try and help them. That's it.

So, you know, I do basic stuff. The money's in the list. So let's build a list. You'll be shocked how many people don't know how to put together a website or get response and actually start building a list. You know, they really need the base.

They need the basics of setting up an autoresponder, little stuff to a person like you or I, but it's big stuff to the person that truly doesn't understand it. No, absolutely. I remember first getting into this and this stuff, it was, I was like, you're kidding. I can send emails out like they're new, that aren't new. I didn't even know that it existed.

So, and that was just three years ago. And I've sold millions of dollars of products like that now. So it's fascinating. And just everybody here, so they do know, I mean, you could plug the, obviously, the Aweber or get response right into the Empower Network capture pages and capture your own leads if they click on the tools tab and they can get Aweber and things like that there. But I encourage everybody to do that because if you are in control of your own list over a period of time, if they get to know you and if they get to trust you, that's your security.

And, you know, we seek to be, obviously, at Empower, we want to be a secure company for people. We want people to be able to bring people here. And if they bring a team here, you know, our eventual goal is, Ted, it always has been, is that, you know, the goal at Empower is that we all build these big teams. And then the way the coded power lines work, there's this massive upfront money in.

So every 90 days we do a product launch with something extraordinarily valuable. And, you know, that's kind of the vision of the, you know, where we're orchestrating the company to go. And, you know, we're doing that over a period of the next, you know, six months and a year. Very different than a traditional internet product launch where it's just a bunch of people grabbing each other's list. We want to be able to, you know, have it be safe for people.

But that list, ultimately, even if something ever happened to Empower, if something ever happened to, you know, your company or whatever it is, those people trust you. They like you. They know you. And if you could get on the phone and if you could connect with them and you could email them out and they know you and they've been getting emails from you for years, just like you joined Carol, who is a phenomenal leader, by the way. I love Carol.

I love Carol. Just like you joined her, they'll join you. And so it's like, it is your security is the list. And so, great concept. What are some strategies?

You know, you talked a lot about being open and authentic. And let's talk about this for a bit because a lot of people, they try to put on, you know, I have a weird personality. I'm just weird, you know. And you know that, you're a baby boom generation.

Probably half your generation looks at me and they say, what's wrong with that guy, you know. But, you know, I'm a little on the fringe. So sometimes people will come in. They'll try to be me. You know, or they'll join you and they'll try to be you.

What are some things that you've noticed that you've done that have really helped you just help others really learn to be authentic and really learn to relate and connect to other people? Because this is one of, I think, the most important things in marketing to do. It's why people like me is because they see my weirdness and they say, that guy doesn't care. You know, he's just saying whatever he wants to say, you know. And so.

Let's talk about this for a second. You know, precisely, you are a very wonderful person. I love you. You know, when I really, the more I got to see you, I loved you even more. I just like everything, you know, I don't like you that much.

But, you know, I kind of like, you know, I like what you project. You know, I'm you know, I have a wife. I, you know, I can't. I'm not saying I like you.

Don't worry about it, man. No, we're all a little goofy. I like your basic character. You know, I love it. You know, you and Dave, you guys are genuine.

I like that. You know, so now, you know what I got. That's funny. You know, I was just talking to a girl just, I think this was yesterday, where, you know, she's starting to build her list.

And I think we've gotten her list about 200 people in one month, which is, you know, not a heck of a lot. But when you really think about it, 200 people and that autoresponder that's getting constant emails from her, that's not bad, you know. So I told her, I said, you know, and sure, I gave her a few of my more generic type emails. I said, you know, you got to put your own personality.

And sure, I gave you a start. But you have to inject your own personality into those emails and whatnot. I said, you can do special broadcasts. That's the cool thing. You know, you have a little, you got at least a little over 200 people.

And there starts, you know, just you may have great thoughts when you wake up one morning, you feel great and you're just still so happy about, you know, Empower or whatever it is. Don't overthink it. You know, I feel that there's no right or wrong in being you. You can't screw it up. Just be you.

Sure. There's always going to be some people that, for whatever reason, you may not connect. And if they unsubscribe, personally, I say, great. Now you have a cleaner list.

But there's going to be other people that they will literally, you know, email you back or call you and they just want to talk to you. And you're building rapport. And nothing's more valuable, at least in my opinion, than building rapport with prospects, because people will join and spend money with people that they like, you know. It literally doesn't matter, well, it does matter that you do have a great product that helps a lot, but it really helps like you as well, whether it's for your different quirks.

Maybe you're just a comedian personality. Maybe you're just a real passionate person, because, you know, I'm a passionate person. I love it. You know, I'm really passionate. I'm into what I do.

So some people like that, you know, people will find reason to say, okay, I'm looking forward to this guy's email. You know, I shared with where I said, you know, a little while back, a couple of weeks back when Whitney Houston passed away, and I was sad about it, I liked her, and for one of my emails I sent out on this thing, you know, it's just terrible for us to lose a person like this. And I know she had her struggles and all of this, but God, I cared about that person.

And, you know, I said, maybe if only more people would have let her know how much we all really cared about her. And for what it's worth, you know, I care about you. They didn't really, you know, the people I sent the email out to, you know, I have a couple of, you know, it went out to several thousand people. But I'm basically saying, hey, I care about you. I didn't try and pitch a deal that day.

I didn't put a link with my website. I just put, you know, hey, you know, God bless. Everybody did. That's it.

And when people, then they start saying that, you know, there's, I send lots of emails where I am trying to sell. But from time to time, I'll just send one where I'm not, you know, because I care. And so I'm hoping, you know, I guess it comes across that I'm a caring person. And I'm someone, once again, I go all out to help anyone on my team because, you know, I've been like you and lots of other leaders.

We've all been through a struggle. You know, you have to go through struggle to reach some success. And so, yeah, I try to stick my hand out and I'm going to help. I just try to help, you know, any way I can.

And mentoring and coaching, that's what I do. Well, you know, it's great to hear that and great to have guys like you on the team and to realize that, you know, when I got in this industry, and my brother, he's like this as well, my brother Aki, when we kind of got in the industry around the same time back in originally 2002. And, you know, when we originally got in, Ted, we saw this like beautiful thing. We're like, holy smokes, we can actually make money.

Helping people, you know, I was like, well, we could make money by helping other people improve their lives, is the most unbelievable thing ever. And then kind of what we discovered is that there's just this huge, you know, section of the industry that all they care about is money. You know, it's all they want. You know, all they want is money and all they want is to, you know, make a sale. And then that's all they care about is the sale.

They're not consistent and they jump from thing to thing and they're always building new teams and burning people out. And it's good to see that, because the most success I've ever seen, hands down, is from people like you, period. There's nothing else that's touched, the guys that really have big hearts, because they keep people around, and less people turns into more when you keep people around. And I think that's a beautiful thing.

So let's talk about a little bit about a couple of things that you do specific. So let's talk about, you know, leads is one thing. Solo ads. We talk about that in the 15K formula. And maybe sometime, Ted, we could actually get a bonus.

We have an hour from you as well. I'm wanting to just keep adding bonuses back to that product. Of course, we're going to be increasing the price to a thousand dollars here coming up so we can have more of a higher end product. And we're going to develop another higher end product over the summertime as well with some of the leaders here at Empower and maybe hopefully have you in that product as well. But, you know, let's talk about what you do when you get somebody, two situations, we'll start with the first, you get somebody on the phone who is not in Empower Network yet.

And they're calling you. Are they responding to an email? Are they picking up the phone or let's say they get in touch with you? How do you talk to them to get them, you know, you just help them out.

Okay, that's an excellent question, because that's the key to all of this, I think, you know, and I'm sure, you know, you have marketing, and when you are, you know, you're sending out emails or you're running ads on whatever platform, you know, you name it, Facebook, pay per clicks, pay per views, whatever it is, yeah, some people are going to call you when you put yourself out there like that. So when people call, well, for me, you know, I guess over the years I've just, you have to have posture. Number one, you know, you have to, you know, have the type of posture that the person would want to work with, you being right to the point. You know, and this is what I try and tell a lot of people, because when you're doing this marketing and when people call you, it's not that I'm not saying you have to be yourself, but at the same time, you have to have a little posture about yourself.

You know, I think a person like you got to have a little that John Wayne type swagger, you know, you got to talk, you know, just have a little swagger about yourself. You got to believe in yourself, is what it comes down to. I guess you kind of have to have that aura that guy is somebody I want to work with. You know, so you can't be all, you know, over.

Joy that you got to call and someone's ready to join, because if you sound, you know, you can't be overjoyed. You got to talk to people like it's, okay, I've already had three or forty. There's no big deal. This is just normal. And when you present yourself from possibly with the right posture, I don't know.

Things just seem to go your way. They go my way. And so if there was one thing I could tell a new person, when that phone's ringing and you have to halfway collect yourself and talk with a little, have a little posture about yourself, a little swag, talk with confidence, you know, one thing I do, you know, I guess when a person calls, you know, you have to be even though they're calling you, you have to be in control of that conversation more so than, again, if it's someone that I know, for me I believe that there's all personality types.

And if there's someone that they can call me and they're just going to run over me and they won't give me a chance to talk, I may just tell them, I don't know if this is the right deal for you. You know, I'll throw that out there really quick. And then, what do you mean that's not the right deal for me? Well, you know, we're looking for people that are coachable and trainable and, you know, and willing to, you know, follow directions.

And the next thing I know, they're okay, well, I can follow directions. What? Okay, well, now they'll let me talk. You know, you've got to be able to, you know, take away the bill. I'm not into trying to convince someone to.

To join. I don't do that. It's just all about having the right posture when you talk to people. Okay, so quick question, then, because people do have different strategies here and the beauty is they all work and they fit different people. Do you close on the phone or do you just allow people to do it themselves?

What do you do? You know, I used to be considered a top closer. And, yeah, I used to, you know, I, myself, I'm being able to close, for me, as I've matured over the years, I find I don't have to close as much. It's all about posture, you know, back in the day.

And, you know, I would be trying to close my tail off, you know, but over the years I've kind of gotten away from it. I'm not going to do it. I don't feel, when you have something as powerful as Empower Network, that these are the type of deals that I love because, my God, it's just there.

And it's so easy to see that this is something that can improve anybody's quality of life. There's not a lot of closing, you've got all the closing, and what I don't have to close after it's already closed, I just have to have enough posture, if they just don't get it, go to, you know, I'm telling them, go sign up.

I'm like, you go. But what should they buy? Everything. Buy everything. You deserve it all.

But, you know, I don't believe in trying to close right now. No, it's all about talking with posture, you know, keeping my posture and letting the person know that we're real here and we're going to go one hundred percent to do whatever we can to help them be successful. And, you know, my favorite line is sometimes you need to draw a line in the sand, you know, either you're going to be on that side and think this may be for you, or you can be on the other side and be committed that this is totally for you. And, you know, I'm one that I work with committed people.

I don't work with. So if they want to work with me, be committed and I'm all yours. That's great, man. That's great. So it's that attitude, by the way.

I can see why it's more of a pull than a push. And that's a concept, actually, and it's applied all kinds of different ways. Go on. That's off to them, but not for me.

It's more about posture. Yeah, no, that's absolutely awesome. You know, I agree with you because I felt, I remember learning something very early on when I was on the Internet, and because I started off, and I don't talk about this too often because it was absolutely miserable. But I started off on the Internet not doing, you know, marketing. I started off essentially just, you know, posting ads on Craigslist for.

Jobs, before a few months before I discovered this amazing thing of list building that we've discovered now. I was posting, you know, resumes, you know, and then interviewing people and then getting them to a presentation, and, you know, I remember being on the phone and I was, you know, doing the interview and just kind of chill, and then I'd get them to this, you know, this webinar, this presentation, and it was a very strong push to get people to take action. It was a lot of grunt work. It was a lot of grinding. It was a lot of misery and pain.

Nothing wrong with Craigslist. There's effective ways to do it. The way I was doing it probably wasn't the right way because people were looking for a job, thought they were in a job interview, and it was probably a little deceptive, truthfully, you know. And then I discovered this amazing thing that we've discovered, which is the relationship list, open communication. And I started having people come out of the woodwork who were responding to emails. They say, what are you doing?

And I get on the phone with them and I'd say. Hey, is this Rob? Say, yeah. It'd be like, I'd be like, Rob, it's Dave Wood. It's nice to meet you.

Be like, holy smokes. You're that guy on the Internet. And they're just amazed, I call. And a lot of people, even if they're new, they'll be surprised the first time they connect with somebody online, they call them and the person's like, I can't believe you called me, because that's always what happens.

And so it's beautiful to see, my friend. And, you know, it's beautiful to see that it's been working for the last seven years or whatever, because that means it'll work for the next seven. I remember being in a meeting back in 2002. And it was a guy named Greg Duncan. You may have run into him, too.

He's a big old Amway guy. Of course, we were at the time. You think it's funny, but we were talking about an Internet business and then doing home meetings and product pickup. Right. So you order the products off the Internet and pick them up from my house, you know, on Wednesdays.

So it was like the hardest thing to sell ever, you know, because we get people in there excited about this new Internet business. Right. And then they'd come. They'd say, what? They'd carry the paper order forms to my house and go pick up my products that I had on my shelf, you know, that I wore.

I ordered off the Internet. But, you know, one thing he said, and it is true, and he had a brilliant audio that was like a recruiting audio. It's absolutely brilliant. A brilliant guy.

Greg Duncan, if anybody ever listens to him, he is absolutely brilliant. And in this audio, he talked about the higher the technology, the higher the touch. He says, if you want to keep people around, he says, it ain't just about selling. It's not just about clicking on buttons. He says people want to do business with people.

Period. And that's a beautiful thing, because that's the only thing that is long term. I can sell, you and I, man, I mean, we're gangsters. We could just put up a sales video and just throw a bunch of people in and say, see you.

But it ain't going to last. And so it's beautiful. And that's why this Inner Circle, the purpose is just constantly engage the community. Because if people listen to this audio, they download it, if your team downloads it, if their team downloads it, they're driving around listening to it in their cars.

And they're hearing this over and over and over again. It connects them to us emotionally, in a way that you can't do with thousands of people in any other way but audio. And now Ted Sims, he's a guy that everybody's driving around listening to in his car. And they'll see you at a meeting.

And you'll say, I had a breakthrough listening to that audio because I discovered that this business is not just about the sale. It's about the person. Because at Empower, our goal is to lift people up. That's why it's the Empower Network. We went actually about two months.

Thinking of a name for this thing. Actually, before I was even working with Dave Sharp, I was bouncing ideas off a couple of buddies of mine. Chris Rushlow came up with that name. And it just happened to be available. That was the key.

It had to be a good name and available, which was really hard. And we ended up buying the domain for a few thousand. I will say you nailed it with Empower Network because I'm serious. I get so charged up when I really look at what's going on. I am just so happy that we're in our relaunch and I'm ready to go.

Because it's empowering a lot of people that, well, I know you know that haven't been making any money. And then you see people that haven't made money and all of a sudden they're five and ten thousand a month residuals. Man, that's exciting stuff. Yeah. It's up to me.

So, oh man, I love this company. I'm totally charged up and I just don't see anything, I know that there's nothing better right now. This is it. You know, this is the best. There's nothing better than Empower Network.

And that's why Ted is all in here. Well, I'm all in with you, buddy. And anything I can do to help you in your business, you let me know. I actually think this is a really good place to kind of end the audio. It's great.

Great energy. And I'd love to have you in here again here in a month or so and just maybe share some of the more insights. And I'd also love to have you, maybe we could do a bonus webinar together sometime in the next two, three weeks. I'm going to actually jot this down on what you do for list building solos. Because that product, obviously, it's going to be $1,000.

The price is going up March 31st. So anybody listening to this audio, if they're not a member, obviously, you want to buy that right now because it's going to be four times the price. And that would be a great addition. We have solo ad advertising in there. But the more people, the better.

You've been doing it for years. Could you do that? Would you be happy to come on and share some insights, maybe do a bonus webinar with us? Yeah. Yeah.

I'd love to, because most people, when they're talking about solo ads, you know, a lot of us are used to going to the standard, what are the mill e-zine and solo places. And a lot of people don't have a clue that there's a bunch of solo e-zines that will do guaranteed hits, guaranteed opens for you. And when you can have almost guaranteed that you're going to have a positive result, provided you write a decent ad, man, it makes it a lot easier to build that list quickly. And I've done that, by the way. And that's a powerful insight that I've actually never talked about.

I would love to get that on a webinar back there. So I'll plan on that maybe this next week. I think we're going to do a bonus webinar on magazine ads from a gentleman I was interviewing just last night. And we're going to do that this next week. So maybe the following week we could do a bonus webinar with those solos if you'd be available.

And let's just run with it. I mean 2012 is a big year. I actually believe that Empower, I believe we could add in a quarter of a million people in a year here at Empower Network. And this doesn't grow like a system. It doesn't grow like a normal network marketing business.

It grows like a frenzy is what happens. People are fanatical. They get those commission emails and some of them are obviously they're processing their own payments. Some people are paying now with the e-wallet. And I mean people really love our message.

And so we've got some ideas to take this to the masses. And my goal is, great, by the way, so thankful to get on the call with you today. It really, it gave me some insights as well because you've been doing this longer than me. And I'll tell you something, man, is I respect experience. I might have a lot of results personally.

But one thing I respect, I respect with every part of me, is somebody that has more experience than me. And so it's incredible to have you on, incredible to have your insights here. And anything I can ever do for you, you just pick up the phone, let me know, and I'll call you back. Is that cool?

That's very cool. And, you know, my words, I can't even say enough of the respect I have for both you and Dave Sharp. You know, you guys, you're showing, you know, the newbies how to blog. And blogging is big. You know, I wish people would.

You know, they could understand that part of this Internet marketing game as well. But, man, you have literally given them a true golden nugget just the way you're trying to up their insight on blogging alone. So, you know, I'm here whenever you need me, Dave. All right, man. Well, we'll end it there.

Just a couple of assignments, thoughts I have for everybody on this who's listening to the audio in the Inner Circle membership. Guys, download these. Listen to them daily. The purpose of the Inner Circle is, again, I'm repeating this, and I'll say it every day for the rest of my life. The purpose of this membership is not you listen to an audio and it gets you results.

I promise everybody listening to these audios, if you'll stick with us for a year in the Inner Circle, you'll listen daily, just in your down time, working out, taking a walk through the forest. When you're working out in the morning or hanging out or making dinner, right, it will change your life. These perspectives, they automatically will integrate with the way that you market and your personality because you're doing it when you're not doing anything else. It's the purpose of this membership. Get your teams plugged into it.

Answer questions by referring to the Inner Circle audios. When your team asks you questions, it will change your business. It will change your upselling. It will change the way you sell. Listen, just something I picked up from this, Ted, just in the way that your energy is.

And I could tell, by the way, on the phone just talking to you. You feel his energy, guys. Re-listen to this audio. Feel the energy that he speaks with. That is why people join him.

Okay? It's not any magic. It's not any push button thing. Listen to the audio again and feel that energy. Listen again and again and again.

My friends, appreciate you. Appreciate the Empower Network. Come back. We're hopefully going to have something up here tomorrow as well. Get your teams to listen to this audio.

And my friends, we'll see you on the beach of the world. Appreciate you, Ted. And thank you very much for your support and your success. So you are much more than a $1,700 every three days guy. So appreciate you and appreciate having you on, man.

Bless you and Dave Sharp. Thank you for all you do for all of us. Although you're listening to a private recording in a nondisclosure Empower Network customer training, the principles and strategies in this audio can be applied in any business. Although these techniques, philosophies, and strategies may have worked for others, no one can guarantee that they will work for you. We report real average earnings updated daily at EmpowerNetwork.com forward slash income.php.

The purchase of this or any other audio is not required to earn money in our affiliate compensation plan. And you can decide to not continue to buy these forever at any time. We hope, however, these ideas and strategies will assist you in building a profitable long-term business. Success takes hard work, determination, skill, and consistent effort. Please refer to our average earnings at EmpowerNetwork.com forward slash income.php.

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